Earth File #1963 // SOURCED record

Poissy luminous points formation, 27 September 2009

The GEIPAN case record reports that a witness observed three slightly orange luminous points forming a triangle at around 11:05 p.m. for approximately two minutes. One point split into two; the group then disappeared silently toward the forest of Saint-Germain-en-Laye. The testimony was too brief for investigation, and GEIPAN classified the case as category C: lack of information.
Source // GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive Earth record separated from alien editorial
FRED // CASE CONSOLE
SOL-3 // FILE 1963 // CH 17
CONTEXT VIEW // NOT SOURCE MEDIA
CASE FINGERPRINT
B609-B918-70D6
NIGHT
WITNESS CONTEXT
Reported motionTRIANGLE
FRED // ROUTING NOTE // generated from Earth Record metadata
TRIANGLE
Poissy (78) // Sep 27, 2009 23:05. The diagram on the left is a structured-record visualization—not a reconstruction, photograph, sensor return, or additional evidence.
INSUFFICIENT DATA NIGHT GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive
Witness pictureWitness 1 interface marker(s) // not a headcount estimate
Motion traceReported motionOne luminous point split into two, Disappeared silently toward the forest of Saint-Germain-en-Laye
Sensor / evidenceNo sensor type statedWitness testimony, Official GEIPAN case record
Fred's paperwork completeness8/9 fields // 89%
Interface completeness only // this score does not measure truth, evidence strength, or extraterrestrial probability
1 document(s)1 source node(s)7 structured claim(s) location precision: locality One luminous point split into twoDisappeared silently toward the forest of Saint-Germain-en-Laye
FRED // ROUTING NOTEShape and motion give me something worth diagramming. The diagram remains a diagram, which I am apparently required to keep explaining.
Off-record desk banter // not case attribution
Mivra Qel would call this display “plenty of information.” Mivra Qel also has never encountered a restricted corridor she considered personally binding. His visualization standards are not binding on this desk.
Fred case console // context visualization // not evidence
Visitor Transmission // AlienBox editorial layer
We were present at Poissy on 27 September 2009, but only as observers. The GEIPAN record reports that a witness saw three slightly orange luminous points in a triangular formation for approximately two minutes; one point split into two, and the group disappeared silently toward the forest of Saint-Germain-en-Laye. We did not cause the phenomenon, and we do not identify its cause. GEIPAN classified the case as Category C: lack of information. A perfectly respectable filing outcome.
Fred // Earth Records Liaison // AlienBox editorial layer
A brief GEIPAN record describes three slightly orange points in a triangle, one apparently splitting before the group vanished; the case is classified C, lack of information. That is the useful conclusion here, and it is not glamorous. A reported motion is not an explanation, and “silent” is not a propulsion system—merely a note about what was not heard. The testimony was too brief for investigation, so the phenomenon remains unidentified rather than promoted to extraterrestrial by clerical enthusiasm. Off the Earth Record: the Visitors were observers only, not the cause. Their presence does not identify what was seen. I have filed this under “interesting, unresolved, and absolutely not permission to invent the missing pages.”
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When
2009-09-27 23:05:00
Where
Poissy (78)
Morphology
TRIANGLE
Evidence authority
SOURCED
Resolution
INSUFFICIENT DATA

Why Fred Thinks This Case Matters

AlienBox comparative analysis from structured Earth Record fields // not a new source // not a change in evidence grade
Console archetype // Published-resolution comparison

Fred keeps this file near the top of the pile because the source also supplies a published resolution to compare against the original report. That combination makes the case useful for cross-archive comparison without changing its evidence grade.

The source record includes a published resolution field. AlienBox treats it as an attributed source assessment to compare with the original report, not as an AlienBox verdict.

What strengthens the record

  • 1 linked source document provide provenance for the Earth Record.
  • 7 claim citations tie extracted statements back to source excerpts or locators.
  • Recorded evidence context: Witness Testimony and Official GEIPAN Case Record.
  • The source record includes a published resolution: GEIPAN category C: Lack of information; testimony insufficient for investigation.

What limits the record

  • No sensor type is recorded in the structured Earth Record.
  • The structured record does not establish multiple independent observers.
  • The current dossier is anchored to one source network rather than independent source networks.

What would help resolve it

  • Can the originating record establish an exact number of observers and whether their observations were independent?
  • Did any radar, infrared, optical, telemetry, or other instrument record the event, and is that material preserved?
  • Can the source establish a usable duration for the observation rather than only a date or narrative sequence?

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Earth Record // SOURCED

Human-world claims below are kept separate from Fred and Visitor editorial/lore. Translation changes language, not evidence status.
Witness typesWitness
Sensor typesNot stated
Evidence typesWitness testimony, Official GEIPAN case record
The case record identifies the observation date as 27 September 2009.
Claim #20099 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Observation date 27/09/2009”
Source: POISSY (78) 27.09.2009 // [[T0001]] Case details
At around 11:05 p.m. on September 27, 2009, a witness observed three slightly orange luminous points forming a triangle in the sky for two minutes.
Claim #20100 // ATTRIBUTED CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“On September 27, 2009, at around 11:05 p.m., a witness observed the movement of three slightly orange luminous points forming a triangle in the sky for 2 minutes.”
Source: POISSY (78) 27.09.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
One of the luminous points split into two, after which the witness observed two phenomena.
Claim #20101 // ATTRIBUTED CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“One of the luminous points split into two; the witness then observed two phenomena.”
Source: POISSY (78) 27.09.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
The whole group disappeared silently in the direction of the forest of Saint Germain en Laye.
Claim #20102 // ATTRIBUTED CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“The whole group disappeared silently in the direction of the forest of Saint Germain en Laye.”
Source: POISSY (78) 27.09.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
The testimony was too brief for an investigation to be conducted, and the witness did not wish to provide further information when contacted again 18 months after the observation.
Claim #20103 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“The testimony is too brief for an investigation to be conducted: when contacted again 18 months after the observation, the witness did not wish to provide any further information.”
Source: POISSY (78) 27.09.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
GEIPAN classified the case in category C: Lack of information.
Claim #20104 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“This case is classified in category C: Lack of information.”
Source: POISSY (78) 27.09.2009 // [[T0001]] Description
The case page lists the phenomenon type as Lack of reliable information.
Claim #20105 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Phenomenon type Lack of reliable information”
Source: POISSY (78) 27.09.2009 // [[T0001]] Case details
FRED // PUBLIC DESK CHANNEL

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