Earth File #2389 // SOURCED record

Montmorillon reddish-orange ball observation

GEIPAN’s record reports that, on November 19, 1977, at around 1:05 a.m., a motorist and passenger saw a reddish-orange ball moving and drawing closer. After the driver stopped, it reportedly remained motionless about 1.5 meters above a meadow and approximately 30 meters from the car, without noise; the motorists reported observing it for about 15 minutes and over nine kilometers before it disappeared. No trace was found. GEIPAN classifies the case B and states that the manifestation was probably an electrical phenomenon, identified as electricity and plasma.
Source // GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive Earth record separated from alien editorial
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CASE FINGERPRINT
3504-5174-7341
NIGHT
WITNESS CONTEXT
Reported hover / stationary phaseSPHERE
FRED // PLEASE DO NOT ENCOURAGE THEM // generated from Earth Record metadata
SPHERE
Montmorillon (86) // Nov 19, 1977 01:05. The diagram on the left is a structured-record visualization—not a reconstruction, photograph, sensor return, or additional evidence.
PARTIALLY EXPLAINED NIGHT GEIPAN / CNES UAP Case Archive
Witness picturemotorist, passenger 1 interface marker(s) // not a headcount estimate
Motion traceReported hover / stationary phasemoved and drew closer, remained motionless approximately 1.5 meters above the ground, was observed over approximately nine kilometers
Sensor / evidenceNo sensor type stateddirect witness report recorded by GEIPAN, official investigation
Fred's paperwork completeness8/9 fields // 89%
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1 document(s)1 source node(s)8 structured claim(s) location precision: locality moved and drew closerremained motionless approximately 1.5 meters above the groundwas observed over approximately nine kilometers
FRED // PLEASE DO NOT ENCOURAGE THEMPart of the drawer closes; part of it does not. Annoying, but considerably more useful than pretending uncertainty comes in one size.
Fred case console // context visualization // not evidence
Visitor Transmission // AlienBox editorial layer
Your GEIPAN archive records that, on 19 November 1977, a motorist and passenger reported a reddish-orange ball near Montmorillon, remaining motionless above a meadow before disappearing after roughly fifteen minutes and more than nine kilometers of observation. The record reports no trace and classifies the case B, identifying the phenomenon as probably electrical—electricity and plasma. We do not recognize it either. This is unusual. Our cataloguing procedures are extensive, largely because Gorkon Outpost keeps misplacing the useful shelves.
Fred // Earth Records Liaison // AlienBox editorial layer
GEIPAN’s sourced record is admirably restrained: a reported reddish-orange ball, no trace, and a Class B assessment identifying the phenomenon as probably electricity and plasma. That is a reasonable place to stop—not because “unidentified” secretly means extraterrestrial, but because an unexplained remainder is not evidence wearing a dramatic hat. Off the Earth Record, I checked the relevant desks. We do not recognize this one either. No family claim, no borrowed craft, no cousin to invoice. Irritating, certainly; decisive, no. The observation belongs in the archive, while the explanation remains probable rather than absolute—which is more intellectual hygiene than most galaxies manage before breakfast.
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When
1977-11-19 01:05:00
Where
Montmorillon (86)
Morphology
SPHERE
Evidence authority
SOURCED
Resolution
PARTIALLY EXPLAINED

Why Fred Thinks This Case Matters

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Console archetype // Published-resolution comparison

Fred keeps this file near the top of the pile because the source also supplies a published resolution to compare against the original report. That combination makes the case useful for cross-archive comparison without changing its evidence grade.

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What strengthens the record

  • 1 linked source document provide provenance for the Earth Record.
  • 8 claim citations tie extracted statements back to source excerpts or locators.
  • Recorded evidence context: Direct Witness Report Recorded By GEIPAN, Official Investigation, and Absence Of Physical Trace.
  • The source record includes a published resolution: Probably an electrical phenomenon; GEIPAN identifies the phenomenon type as electricity and plasma..

What limits the record

  • No sensor type is recorded in the structured Earth Record.
  • The structured record does not establish multiple independent observers.
  • The current dossier is anchored to one source network rather than independent source networks.

What would help resolve it

  • Can the originating record establish an exact number of observers and whether their observations were independent?
  • Did any radar, infrared, optical, telemetry, or other instrument record the event, and is that material preserved?
  • Can the source establish a usable duration for the observation rather than only a date or narrative sequence?

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Earth Record // SOURCED

Human-world claims below are kept separate from Fred and Visitor editorial/lore. Translation changes language, not evidence status.
Witness typesmotorist, passenger
Sensor typesNot stated
Evidence typesdirect witness report recorded by GEIPAN, official investigation, absence of physical trace
The case is classified B.
Claim #24349 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Classification B”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0001]] Case details
The phenomenon type is identified as electricity and plasma.
Claim #24350 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Phenomenon type Electricity and plasma”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0001]] Case details
The case summary describes a probable observation of an electrical phenomenon.
Claim #24351 // ASSESSMENT // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Probable observation of an electrical phenomenon.”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0001]] Summary
On November 19, 1977, at around 1:05 a.m., a motorist and his passenger saw a reddish-orange ball moving and drawing closer.
Claim #24352 // ATTRIBUTED CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“On November 19, 1977, at around 1:05 a.m., a motorist and his passenger saw a reddish-orange ball moving and drawing closer.”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0001]] Description
The driver stopped, and the phenomenon remained motionless in a meadow 1.5 meters above the ground and about thirty meters from the car; no noise was heard.
Claim #24353 // ATTRIBUTED CLAIM // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“The driver stopped, and the phenomenon remained motionless in a meadow 1.5 meters above the ground and about thirty meters from the car. No noise was heard.”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0001]] Description
The motorists reported seeing the phenomenon for a quarter of an hour and over nine kilometers before it disappeared.
Claim #24354 // ATTRIBUTED CLAIM // SOURCED // 98% extraction confidence
“The phenomenon was seen for a quarter of an hour and over nine kilometers by the motorists before disappearing.”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0001]] Description
No trace or clue was found at the various locations where the phenomenon had been observed.
Claim #24355 // FACTUAL CLAIM // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“No trace or clue was found at the various locations where the phenomenon had”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0001]] Description
The record states that the observed manifestation can probably be attributed to an electrical phenomenon because it was always seen progressing near equipment that conducts and transforms electricity.
Claim #24358 // ASSESSMENT // SOURCED // 99% extraction confidence
“Nevertheless, it is probable that the observed manifestation can be attributed to an electrical phenomenon, given that it was always seen progressing near equipment that conducts and transforms electricity.”
Source: MONTMORILLON (86) 19.11.1977 // [[T0002]] Description
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